tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post4545615808638793771..comments2023-07-29T09:45:13.642+01:00Comments on Bootae's Bloody Blog: The 1.3.6, the best patch WAR has ever had?Bootaehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12857676039536372689noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-46914825452941273522010-09-09T15:43:17.947+01:002010-09-09T15:43:17.947+01:00Zones are harder to flip now and I find myself wai...Zones are harder to flip now and I find myself waiting around for domination timers. <br /><br />I also really dislike the Auction House changes. They're sloppy and not well thought through, in my opinion. Why the need for tabs? Also, why on earth would they allow you to search for Chaos careers from the Altdorf AH (and vice versa from IC)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-34999457851960801162010-09-05T17:17:59.447+01:002010-09-05T17:17:59.447+01:00Damn, baited and beaten, that burns. :P
No, destr...Damn, baited and beaten, that burns. :P<br /><br />No, destro wound debuffs don't stack. The highest one applies, that is at least for the Chosen, Mara and BG one. I really have no idea about the Slayer one.<br /><br />Anyone that has a choppa and isn't specced in both heal debuffs and the cooldown increaser is seriously missing out on group utility. I'd go as far as to say that right now, you only really need a BG and a Choppa in a group and you've got yourself loads of utility. Between them, they have every possible debuff out there (powerful ones anyway). Not to mention some cool buffs.<br /><br />So much for career balance. But as always, the concept of balance is of completely subjective nature and I don't believe anyone is fit to judge it - not even the devs (maybe devs the least of all, because it's hard to distance yourself from your own game). So I guess we'll agree to disagree here. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-45251288983799504622010-09-04T01:25:26.650+01:002010-09-04T01:25:26.650+01:00I still stand by it though, balance in WAR right n...I still stand by it though, balance in WAR right now is not really that bad and certainly no worse than most other MMOs. Certainly compared with the well known names like WoW, AoC, Aion, blah blah.Bootaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857676039536372689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-59998622934701239982010-09-04T01:17:53.108+01:002010-09-04T01:17:53.108+01:00Hah wasn't meant as a competition, was just a ...Hah wasn't meant as a competition, was just a general comment on career balance and confirming I'm not making it up at random. But I beat you in your game by 1 RR, same number of 40s though for a week or so ;)<br /><br />Ah choppa, I admit I hadn't noticed that. I've not specced for both on mine though, only got cant stop da chop... at the moment :P<br /><br />Wound debuffs, do the destro ones stack? I didn't think so, but I'm not sure. I'm being told that the Slayer one is stacking with something else. True or player's making crap up?Bootaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857676039536372689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-63531201749324724732010-09-03T21:43:43.013+01:002010-09-03T21:43:43.013+01:00@Igleoo: Just because I'm not in an organised ...@Igleoo: Just because I'm not in an organised guild atm doesn't mean I haven't experienced organised group play. <br /><br />And you misunderstood: I'm not complaining that AAO does more for organised groups then it does for PuGies, I'm complaining that it doesn't work as it's supposed to (distributing the zerg, incentivising fighting when outnumbered). If you are suddenly seeing that happening, ask yourself if it isn't maybe because it was happening before aswell, not because AAO was introduced.<br /><br />From personal experience, it doesn't affect the aforementioned aspects of RvR enough to make AAO worthwhile, or 1.3.6 a good patch.<br /><br />@Bootae: I'm afraid you aren't familiar with the last Choppa change. They have an outgoing and incoming heal debuffs. They stack for a total of 75% healing mitigated on a healer healing himself or a heal debuffed target. And while Slayers do have an incoming heal debuff (not spammable) they don't have an outgoing one. Playing a healer I realise just how potent outgoing heal debuffs are, and not to be ignored<br /><br />On the subject of wounds debuff, yes Slayers do have one but destro has a few more than order (KotBS and Slayer vs Chosen, Marauder and BG). Which isn't a whine, I'm just stating a fact.<br /><br />I do agree that WP/DoK (healing ones) and Sorc/BW are overpowered, and I would add Slayer and Choppa along with them. Those 2 careers have absolutely tons of utility that would need to be redistributed, not to mention their insane damage. But being mdps they don't stand out that much.<br /><br />And if you want to play the R40ies game, I do have 7 40ies with a RR72 main (WP lol). Admittedly, I don't play them all regularly, but I would say I have a basic grasp of career balance. :PAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-22140729608211333272010-09-03T13:41:23.522+01:002010-09-03T13:41:23.522+01:00Igleoo - Don't be a tool mate. While I agree w...Igleoo - Don't be a tool mate. While I agree with the basic sentiment that people will get more out of WAR if they join a more organised guild (note... "organised" not hardcore), you shouldn't assume the people posting comments are not in organised guilds. There's more to it than that.<br /><br />Everyone has different experiences in-game based on a wide range of factors. The people I play with are seeing a big impact from AAO, but that doesn't mean everyone else will get the same experience. I can only write about what I see or personally talk with people about. Like Obi-wan everything I said is true, from a certain point of view.<br /><br />I do agree that Sorcs and BWs are too powerful in group and warband situations. 1v1 they are not any better to anyone else, but its a group game and yes, they are far ahead of the other ranged DPS in overall potency.Bootaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857676039536372689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-4809986782614217692010-09-03T10:37:13.857+01:002010-09-03T10:37:13.857+01:00Igleoo ..you just disqualified yourself ;)
You hav...Igleoo ..you just disqualified yourself ;)<br />You have no idea of the style I and my guild are playing..and have therefore no right to write such..things (I try my best to be polite ;) )<br /><br />On the career balance thing.. I think that Mythic has done a quiet good job there, even though I think that DoK/WP and Sorc/BW are still overpowered, but overall realms and careers are quiet balanced.Zizlakhttp://doomdiver.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-36891968761880199322010-09-03T08:26:29.639+01:002010-09-03T08:26:29.639+01:00QQers
The answer = join a proper guild and stop b...QQers<br />The answer = join a proper guild and stop being puggie randoms y/n?<br /><br />Bootsie<br />U not thikn Bright Wizzies + Sorcs are still OP?Igleoonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-34297465364105234282010-09-02T23:32:40.038+01:002010-09-02T23:32:40.038+01:00I agree with Zewar, AAO does nothing for a player ...I agree with Zewar, AAO does nothing for a player who isn't in a premade guild situation or a ganker. The zerg completely rolls over the smaller enemy side making it hard to get any RR. Not only that, now that PvE requirements are removed it sometimes makes it harder for the smaller pop side to get enough skirmish to flip a zone.<br /><br />They must fix imbalance. The incentive angles don't work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-32992662831621680172010-09-02T17:39:49.875+01:002010-09-02T17:39:49.875+01:00I completely agree with Lilrys on this and the dif...I completely agree with Lilrys on this and the difference AAO has made is very visible to me and well everyone I talk to. Admitedly everyone I talk to is in KF or our alliance :P<br /><br />We will each only get the game experience that comes with our style of play, the guilds we're in and the times we get to play WAR at.<br /><br />Zewar - Regarding the career changes, the Choppa double heal debuff is no big deal. Slayers have a spamable one too, so its on all the time regardless. Choppas having two doesnt make any difference, as there's no cooldowns. Sure it means more Choppa specs can have a heal debuff, but then the Slayer wound debuff that stacks with other ones is just as horrible and looked at with envious eyes by Destro. <br /><br />Magus and Engineer both had numerous improvements in 1.3.6, not as many as needed, but they were not ignored. I'm liking the changes with my Magus so far. <br /><br />I do agree that Marauders should not have been ignored and Mythic need to look at their brutality mastery in particular ASAP.<br /><br />Personally, flame bait as this maybe, as someone that is almost at a full account of level 40s I think the cries of terrible career balance are extremely overstated. The only seriously overpowered careers are Warrior Priests and Disciples of Khaine. <br /><br />The rest are certainly not perfect and there are things that need improving, but it's really not as bad as often made out and is a load of "grass is greener on the othe side" thinking. People didn't like it when Paul Barnett said it, but he was right about the whole "Everyone that kills me is overpowered or cheating" thing. Not that I'm saying you think like that, but if people are at all influenced by what others say, a lot of people do think like that.Bootaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857676039536372689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-88248478060921020002010-09-02T15:34:49.882+01:002010-09-02T15:34:49.882+01:00I'll have to completly disagree with AAO not c...I'll have to completly disagree with AAO not changing anything. While it is true that purely renown gain wise it probarly favours organised guilds more. The real deal comes from the moral boost unorganised people get. Since the patch hit, most pug's I've seen have goon from running when outnumbered 1-1,2 (aussmeing the other side gets first blood) to fighting to the bitter end, even while being completly screwed. This means that I can suddenly assume that people I don't know will watch my back/buy me time, and I suddenly have a reason to watch their backs or buy them time. (nothing worse then hitting 3 warbands in the back with your two groups, only to see your own 3 warbands fighting in the front turn tail and run)<br /><br />granted the other bugs have had me playing alot more starcraft then war lately, but i do doubt that i'm lucky enough to only log on when morale is high :)Lilrysnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-33362464984204270592010-09-02T14:25:59.313+01:002010-09-02T14:25:59.313+01:001.3.6 probably looks good to you because of severa...1.3.6 probably looks good to you because of several factors. You play in an organised guild (I see a lot of KF groups around) so AAO does a lot for you. And tbh, playing on Norn, I can't say I've seen AAO change anything. If people spread to other zones it's because they've always did that. There were always some people trying to PvE the keeps for whatever reason. The zerg still rolls at primetime (either side) and random players still run away from zones where they are outnumbered. Not much of a change there. The only ones really capitilising on AAO is solo or small group ganking.<br /><br />Then there were some disasterous career balance changes. Choppas getting double heal debuffs, magi/engi/maras being ignored, RP/zealots getting even more pigeon-holed in their specs (with not a much of an increase in dmg aswell),... Sure some careers got love but not all of them. And it was supposed to be a C&C balance patch (1.3.5 and 1.3.6).<br /><br />Sure we got the appearance system, which works well, but now we need to work for the armor redesign? I thought that the shoddy armor design was the designers fault not ours? Add to that the pain of getting old influence rewards through tickets and it's really disappointing.<br /><br />If I had to pick the best patch this year, I'd say it was the one where they introduced the revamped city sieges (1.3.5?). I was really disappointed with 1.3.6, mainly because this was supposed to be the last patch to address career balance before the expansions. It looks like the gimped careers will stay gimped until after it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-30678330857896889942010-09-02T14:12:50.865+01:002010-09-02T14:12:50.865+01:00I'm not tainted by the career changes solely.....I'm not tainted by the career changes solely.. I don't like the whole package.<br /><br />My main gripe is the performance of the game (server/client-lag). It took a deep bump downwards, at least on my machine. The game is in a state were I prefer PvE over RvR, because in PvP-action the client just won't do the things I want. It's really a pain if you don't know what your character is doing, because the cast bar is disappearing, some animations don't work and you get a confirmation/error message up to 5s after the spell fired off.. Even in PvE this is annoying but I can live with that. <br />In RvR this means just that I die without contributing anything as a healer. Those problems are less apparent when I play as a slayer, but for my riflemen-specced Engineer and Runepriest it's killing the fun in playing them.<br /><br />AAO..*shrug* I couldn't care less. Renown is irrelevant to me..I want good fights and the amount of good fights didn't increase because of AAO..some of the groups evade populated zones, but that doesn't necessarily lead to significant more small scale action as far as I experienced it in the few days after the patch were I did some RvR roaming with my guild.<br /><br />The changes to lotd and therefore to T2/T3 are good.. the appearance system is nice, but that doesn't qualify that patch as the best patch ever.Zizlakhttp://doomdiver.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-43032341365769186342010-09-02T13:54:28.689+01:002010-09-02T13:54:28.689+01:00AAO + Being low renown rank is FANTASTIC. I took a...AAO + Being low renown rank is FANTASTIC. I took a rr25 SM to rr32 in a matter of hours on AAO buffs, simply by grouping with higher rank guildies and picking people off.Burshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-61677121553532019452010-09-02T13:02:16.769+01:002010-09-02T13:02:16.769+01:00Yea, I thought 1.3.5 was the best patch. Now I...Yea, I thought 1.3.5 was the best patch. Now I'm not so sure, 1.3.6 has been great. AAO and T2/T3 being active may have it beat.Werithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12056359899037938476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-31678380137101869102010-09-02T12:34:55.600+01:002010-09-02T12:34:55.600+01:00Nah you are tainted by your career changes. ;) for...Nah you are tainted by your career changes. ;) for guild like mine this patch has been a revelation.Bootaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857676039536372689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7279669963757550971.post-78137552807288544062010-09-02T12:25:27.152+01:002010-09-02T12:25:27.152+01:00You my sir..are too positive about this patch.
I ...You my sir..are too positive about this patch.<br /><br />I think that this is a horrible patch...in a series of not so good patches. So it fits? ;)<br /><br />I was away two weeks and there are still some horrible bugs out there which make the game nearly unplayable for my Runepriest. I don't even start to talk about that nonsense mechanic ;)<br /><br />Karic/ZizlakZizlakhttp://doomdiver.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com